Note: in the following extracts from the Seth books 'channelled' by Jane Roberts, Seth
speaks a lot in his book, channelled by Jane Roberts, about a specific species or “family of consciousness” with particular creative qualities that he
called the SUMARI. Here he relates the
'SUMARI' or ‘SUMARIANS’ to the ancient SUMERIAN culture (also sometimes referred
to and spelled ‘Sumarian’).
What Seth says both affirms David Icke's belief in higher-dimensional beings and also a hybrid 'alien-human' species originating in Sumeria. At the same time Seth implicitly challenges Icke's view of these aliens as wishing to rule over the human race. And though Seth does refer to 'distortions' of this intent he emphasises that we should not rely on human legends stemming from Sumeria as the lens through which to understand the intents of the original SUMARIANS as he calls them - these legends being themselves an expression of those distortions, imposed by the still all-too-human cultural and religious languages and belief systems that evolved in the course of Sumerian history in its many phases - not least the age-old self-fulfilling belief in a war of good and 'evil' forces.
We should remember also that while Icke constantly and rightly refers to the totally non-empathic and purely calculative egotism of today's global ruling elite. Yet on another level it needs to be recognised the entirety of human history and the entire ‘human experiment’ was and still is a great new adventure in consciousness – specifically an adventure in ego consciousness.
Certainly, this experiment went very wrong in many ways and has had many bad results that we still see today – all based on a false dualism and separation of ego and self etc. But then every great new experiment can go wrong. And though the errors and distortions of ego consciousness were principally a result of human mistakes, it also has to be recognised that humanity as we know it today simply would not exist without the interest taken in it and gifts granted to it by higher-dimensional consciousnesses such as the SUMARIANS.
Yet by mixing with the human species itself (not for bad reasons but initially just in order to enrich their own consciousness through human forms of experiencing) the Sumarians also became themselves entrapped by human ego-consciousness and egotism. It is this that led to the type of unwholesome combination of an advanced, higher-dimensional consciousness with egotism that Icke effectively but wrongly blames on 'evil' shape-shifting Sumarians - ignoring at the same time that our human species and its bodily form is as much a native expression of our own higher-dimensional reality - and of the innately formative and shape-shifting power of consciousness - as that of any 'alien' species of consciousness.
Below I have underlined the most relevant passages from Seth relating to David Icke's 'Big Picture' - and the place of what he sees only as evil, shape-shifting species of alien consciousness - within it.
In the final passages, Seth also emphasises that the so-called ancient 'past' is not actually'past' at all but that past civilisations co-exist in their own present along with our own present - and that, rather than being fixed in time, not just influence our present but change through interaction with it.
What Seth says both affirms David Icke's belief in higher-dimensional beings and also a hybrid 'alien-human' species originating in Sumeria. At the same time Seth implicitly challenges Icke's view of these aliens as wishing to rule over the human race. And though Seth does refer to 'distortions' of this intent he emphasises that we should not rely on human legends stemming from Sumeria as the lens through which to understand the intents of the original SUMARIANS as he calls them - these legends being themselves an expression of those distortions, imposed by the still all-too-human cultural and religious languages and belief systems that evolved in the course of Sumerian history in its many phases - not least the age-old self-fulfilling belief in a war of good and 'evil' forces.
We should remember also that while Icke constantly and rightly refers to the totally non-empathic and purely calculative egotism of today's global ruling elite. Yet on another level it needs to be recognised the entirety of human history and the entire ‘human experiment’ was and still is a great new adventure in consciousness – specifically an adventure in ego consciousness.
Certainly, this experiment went very wrong in many ways and has had many bad results that we still see today – all based on a false dualism and separation of ego and self etc. But then every great new experiment can go wrong. And though the errors and distortions of ego consciousness were principally a result of human mistakes, it also has to be recognised that humanity as we know it today simply would not exist without the interest taken in it and gifts granted to it by higher-dimensional consciousnesses such as the SUMARIANS.
Yet by mixing with the human species itself (not for bad reasons but initially just in order to enrich their own consciousness through human forms of experiencing) the Sumarians also became themselves entrapped by human ego-consciousness and egotism. It is this that led to the type of unwholesome combination of an advanced, higher-dimensional consciousness with egotism that Icke effectively but wrongly blames on 'evil' shape-shifting Sumarians - ignoring at the same time that our human species and its bodily form is as much a native expression of our own higher-dimensional reality - and of the innately formative and shape-shifting power of consciousness - as that of any 'alien' species of consciousness.
Below I have underlined the most relevant passages from Seth relating to David Icke's 'Big Picture' - and the place of what he sees only as evil, shape-shifting species of alien consciousness - within it.
In the final passages, Seth also emphasises that the so-called ancient 'past' is not actually'past' at all but that past civilisations co-exist in their own present along with our own present - and that, rather than being fixed in time, not just influence our present but change through interaction with it.
...your ancestry is indeed varied.There were then visits from
others in other planetary systems. In that regard this is quite natural. Your
own relative isolation is far from the average. The legends, many of them,
therefore, were of course chronicles of quite legitimate physical events,
describing phenomena for example for which natives had no adequate vocabulary.
They were forced to describe what they saw by making comparisons with objects
and events already familiar to them.
It is not nearly as simple as that, however.
There is not a one-line development. By the time that feasible inter-system
space travel is practical, the psychic abilities are developed to a very high
degree. One is necessary for the other. Therefore, it became much more feasible
to approach earthmen during their dream state, when their natural fear
reactions were somewhat minimized, and where the danger to the visitors was far
less.
Out of
body encounters were used as a matter of course. The visitor could appear and
disappear then without fear of pursuit. Civilizations were often warned in
advance of natural disasters that were apparent to the visitors with their
greater viewpoint.
Such
warnings were either given in the dream state of the earthmen, for the reasons
given or often in some secluded place, for often the visitors would be
attacked. During these eras, in your terms, the speakers [individual souls who reincarnate as beneficial teachers of humanity] often acted as
go-betweens. Often warnings of disaster were not followed. Some warnings were
misunderstood, then, as punishment by the gods of ‘moral misdoing'.
"The whole moral code idea was originally tailored for the current scene as it was encountered, told in terms that the natives could understand."
"The whole moral code idea was originally tailored for the current scene as it was encountered, told in terms that the natives could understand."
“Some such visitors, in your terms, were more
evolved than others. All, however, would appear as superhuman in contrast to
those civilizations that encountered them. There were some deliberate
experiments, that were in fact far more dangerous to the experimenters, always
in which the experimenters tried, in one way or another, tried to advance man’s
knowledge.”
“In some
respects the over enthusiastic use of sound was responsible for the flood
mentioned in the Bible, and other literature. It was for this reason that many
attempts were made to warn against the impending disaster. The use of sound was
important at various times in irrigating dry areas, quite literally by pulling
water from a distance.”
“There were several characteristics that
proved difficult, however. Literally, the sound traveled further often than was
intended, causing consequences not planned upon. Great finesse was important.
Sound was also used after irrigation to speed up the flowering of plants, and
to facilitate transplantation to other areas. It was also utilized for
medicinal purposes in operations, particularly in bone and brain operations.”
“Verbal
sounds were often stereotyped simply because the effect of sound was understood
in its effects upon the body. Many ideas that are considered superstitious had
a quite legitimate basis, therefore.”
“This is a
difficult subject. For the movement of heavy tons of rock for example different
techniques, using sound and precise mathematical calculations were necessary.
Many civilizations grew and flourished in fertile areas simply because the
people knew how to make them fertile and to keep them that way.”
“The Sumarians left the memory of
their existence in the Sumerian culture. They initiated it, though they did not
direct all of its activities, nor were they responsible for the distortions of
their teachings that often resulted. There is a difference then between
Sumarian and the culture in the books. Your Sumarian were behind the culture -
they initiated that particular civilization.”
“I will be
clear. Your Sumarian showed earth people at that time how to communicate, how
to initiate crafts, gave them all the fundamentals upon which a civilization
then could be based. The Sumarians, your Sumarians however, were not of human
stock at that time."
Now. Your
Sumarians have become human stock in those terms at other times. It is not a
point of them trying to invade a native stock. They simply understood the
nature of individual existences. Therefore, they are able to choose from
various physical systems those in which they would like to have experience.
They
maintain their inner knowledge and integrity, and are born within any given
system. They always use their native abilities and talents to help the system,
working very strongly in psychic or creative endeavors.
I do not
necessarily mean that they are consciously aware of their affiliation. This is
an individual matter. They are often inventors, always then involved with the
initiation of new ideas or discoveries. All of this follows inner patterns that
are specifically human in your terms. Humanity therefore has its own
characteristics, and no ‘outside influence’ can go counter to these, but must
work with them.
When
it seems that great discoveries come, and then are lost through the ages,
perhaps to be rediscovered, it simply means that man’s own nature was not in
harmony with them, could not use them properly. Whenever aggressiveness became
too misguided it automatically caused the loss of powers or discoveries that
could be used to destroy the planet."
This is a
natural aspect, the self-protective principle that operates within earth life
as you know it. On occasion discoveries were given before their time, and
promptly lost, only to be rediscovered ages later.
The
problem comes when you try to categorize consciousness or being. The out of
body state, in greater terms, is a far more natural state than in the body. You
adopt and make a body. You do this now without even knowing that you do so, but
a body can be made from the camouflage of any system, constructed easily when
you know how to do it.
Space
suits are, therefore, and inadequate, clumsy memory of an inner ability to
clothe the inner self with whatever camouflage is at hand, to merge with the elements
of an environment in such a way that you become a living part of it.
“The
Sumarians - your Sumerians (spelled with ‘e’) did this when they initiated the
culture spoken about in your books. Their sense of time is completely
different, as however your own is innately. It is difficult to explain this,
but keeping in touch with a civilization for several thousand years of your
earth time, would entail perhaps the same amount of time and effort a man might
take in his profession over a period of five to ten years, so the relativity of
time is important in that context.”
Basically - in your terms now - there is no
such thing as an isolated, independent earth stock, in that consciousness did
not suddenly erupt from the physical behavior or characteristics of your
planet, or in any other.
As you
know, consciousness comes first, and then forms the physical materializations
of it. Those consciousnesses who picked physical materialization choose to
operate under certain conditions that then appear as the natural
characteristics of a species to you [whether 'human' or 'serpent' or 'reptilian' etc.]
In the
present … area in which it seems to you that a physical civilization once
existed, that civilization still exists. You cannot meet it though you stand at
the same spot, because of the ideas of time that separate you. The civilization
in flower, and the ruins, coexist. The living ancient Sumerians pass the modern
tourists without seeing them, even as the tourists walk in the middle of the
old Sumerian marked places and see only ruins.
Much of this could be explained in mathematical equations that presently escape you. Your own consciousness is contemporary with the ancient Sumerians as well as with your current selves in your terms.
Think of countries existing simultaneously
now on your planet. There are differences in language and culture, and it takes
a certain amount of earth time to travel through space to visit them. In the
same way all times exist at once, with their peculiar customs, and in your
terms within the same space that you know.
You have
learned how to make roads through space, but not through time on a conscious
level. There are intersections in time and space, however, that you have not
recognized. I am speaking in your terms, hopefully to make this simpler. Times
exist then as surely as places. You think of time as moving toward something,
and of space as relatively stable.
It does
not occur to you then that you can get to times, as you can get to places. All
of this is highly difficult to explain. I do not mean for example that time,
each moment, is a finished and done thing to be visited. While time is not
moving in a particular direction, in your terms, each moment explodes outwards,
or expands outward in all directions.
Space and
time as you understand them ripple through each other. They do not behave as
you think they do, however. Presently you understand your existence only as it
intrudes into three dimensions. Its own activity is in many other dimensions
however.
The
Sumari, therefore, appear in or intrude into the three dimensional system from
other dimensions.
Because of
space travel a visitor might come as a young man, and return some 40 earth
years later still appearing as a young man, leading to the idea of immortality
and eternal youth of the gods.
The Olympic gods were perhaps the most
amusing of man’s attempt to deify space travelers. Mixed in here strongly were
the ideas of gods mating with earth women.
Now. There are bleedthroughs, however, in
space and time as you think of them. Remember, all times are simultaneous.
Ideas are
not dependent upon preexisting ideas. It is not true to say that man cannot
conceive of something that is not already presented to his experience in one
way or another. Ideas are free of space and time. Only your determined focus
upon your time conceptions closes you off from many ideas that otherwise are
available.
In your
terms the bleedthrough can occur in both past and present, and idea from today
bleeding into the past or the other way around. The ideas will be actualized or
put into a practical structure according to your attitude toward them.
Some of
the most sophisticated art is from the past. Bleedthroughs result in its being
picked up in your present. Theoretically all of the information of so -called
lost civilizations is quite available to you, as yours is to them. A closed
mind will perceive none of this.
There have indeed been civilizations upon your planet that understood as well as you, and without your kind of technology, the workings of the planets, the positioning of stars - people who even foresaw ‘later’ global changes. They used a mental physics. There were men before you who journeyed to the moon, and who brought back data quite as ‘scientific’ and pertinent.
There were those who understood the ‘origin’ of your solar system far better than you. Some of these civilizations did not need spaceships. Instead, highly trained men combining the abilities of dream-art scientists and mental physicists cooperated in journeys not only through time but through space. There are ancient maps drawn from a 200 mile-or-more vantage point - these meticulously completed on return from such journeys.
There have indeed been civilizations upon your planet that understood as well as you, and without your kind of technology, the workings of the planets, the positioning of stars - people who even foresaw ‘later’ global changes. They used a mental physics. There were men before you who journeyed to the moon, and who brought back data quite as ‘scientific’ and pertinent.
There were those who understood the ‘origin’ of your solar system far better than you. Some of these civilizations did not need spaceships. Instead, highly trained men combining the abilities of dream-art scientists and mental physicists cooperated in journeys not only through time but through space. There are ancient maps drawn from a 200 mile-or-more vantage point - these meticulously completed on return from such journeys.
The particular thrust and direction
of your own science have been directly opposed to the development of
such inner sciences, however, so that to some extent each step in the
one direction has thus far taken you further from the other … Until you
perceive the innate consciousness behind any "visible" or
"invisible" manifestations, then, you put a definite barrier to your
own knowledge.
If you are greatly interested for example in
history, then the inner self brings you the information you need from all of
its sources. Under certain conditions you maybe propelled through the
coordinates and find yourself in the era in which you are interested.
The
conscious intent, however, directs the kind of material you receive. If you
have no interest in such things, no phenomena will occur strong enough to
impress you in the waking state. If is very possible then to be building a
civilization that, in your terms, you are now studying, to be interpreting
ancient records that you yourself may have written, to be digging up roads that
you yourself built.
This applies to your own historical time as
well as to others. At other layers, of course, your civilization is already in
the past, as in others your civilization does not yet exist. The bleedthroughs,
however, mean that each people according to their characteristics, interests
and activities, attract certain ideas both from the future and the past, and
there is constant interaction.
Because of this even the past as you think of it, as I told you, is never done and completed, but constantly changed by your present and future.
Because of this even the past as you think of it, as I told you, is never done and completed, but constantly changed by your present and future.
from 'The Unknown Reality' - a Seth book by Jane Roberts
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